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Response to Miksicek, Elsesser, Wuebber, Bruhns, and Hammond

  • Ruben E. Reina (a1) and Robert M. Hill, II (a2)


A recent statement by the five authors purports to demonstrate that the fruit we previously identified as ramón was really achiote. This response points out several weaknesses in the five authors' ethnohistorical methodology that makes their identification far less secure. The original aim of our paper is restated to turn discussion away from the minor point of ramón versus achiote.



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Response to Miksicek, Elsesser, Wuebber, Bruhns, and Hammond

  • Ruben E. Reina (a1) and Robert M. Hill, II (a2)


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