Central to the ‘West Kowloon terminus’ issue was whether Hong Kong’s guarantee of rights would still apply, notwithstanding the application of Mainland law. Mr. Rimsky Yuen, then Secretary for Justice, had adopted the legal position that a lease not of property but of territory would be involved and that apparently would have avoided the issue of Hong Kong rights superimposed upon the application of Mainland laws. A very similar issue was to emerge albeit in different guise, in 2019, in connection with the prospect of renditions to the Mainland. Would Hong Kong’s rights regime apply to requests for rendition? Unlike the earlier 2014 protests, 2019 was marked by a degree of violence which initially the world outside was perhaps slow to recognise.