BDG: Seán, I want to start with something that you said yesterday about never having been able to do Bill's [Bill T. Jones's] movement the way he did it—or was it the way he wanted it done? Could you talk about that?

SC: The way he did it. Bill has a very inventive, deeply personal, and unique way of moving, perhaps because he didn't come up through the sort of modern dance training sought by many African-American dancers. People in college told Bill that he should go to New York to be “finished” by Alvin Ailey and he really did not have an interest in that. Bill studied dance with Percival Borde and contact improvisation with Lois Welk and was a track star in high school and college. He did a lot of musical theater in high school with an English teacher he loved very much. Bill was about dancing his own way.