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Comments on “Mass balance of glaciers other than the ice sheets” by Cogley and Adams

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  20 January 2017

Heinz Slupetzky*
Affiliation:
Department of Geography and Geoinformation, University of Salzburg, Hellbrunnerstrasse 34, A-5020 Salzburg, Austria
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Abstract

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Correspondence
Copyright
Copyright © The Author(s) 1999 

Sir,

Reference Cogley and Adams.Cogley and Adams (1998) provided a statistical analysis of mass-balance data from 251 glaciers for 1961–90. To my surprise, the mass-balance data from Stubacher Sonnblickkees (SSK), Austrian Alps, were excluded because the methods used to obtain them were deemed to be “cartographical or statistical estimates”.

I believe the omission of these data is unwarranted, considering some of the data that were used, and suggest that the SSK data should be included in any subsequent analysis for the following reasons.

  1. 1. The methodologies used for mass-balance measurement are seldom explained (as I have done for SSK), so the accuracy of the data used often cannot be properly assessed.

  2. 2. Similarly, there are several datasets used by Cogley and Adams for which the quality of measurement cannot be adequately estimated due to lack of supporting information.

  3. 3. On SSK a very good relationship has been established between the accumulation-area ratio (AAR) and the mass balance, based on 17 previous years of “direct” measurement. If the AAR can be “measured” every year through an accurate survey of the “Ausaperung” (accumulation–ablation patterns) it suggests the accuracy is certainly adequate for the determination of the mass balance.

  4. 4. The Ausaperung method is certainly as accurate as “direct” mass-balance measurements on SSK since several statistical analyses have shown that the results, from a glacier with an extremely complicated topography, are very accurate. The “semi-direct” method here is as accurate, or inaccurate, as the “direct” measurements.

  5. 5. Of the many possible sources of error, one seems to have been overlooked by Cogley and Adams. This is the length of the balance year for which data are compared, which can make a big difference, sometimes much more than ±200 mm a1. On SSK the natural system is used.

  6. 6. In the 1960s, much effort was made to achieve time- and labour-saving methods to ensure continuation of long-term mass-balance series. This is still important and will be more so in the future. Do Cogley and Adams mean to imply that the series from SSK, and those from many other glaciers, are intrinsically inaccurate and therefore useless?

  7. 7. The previous point will need to be addressed as more modellers and statisticians take advantage of the long-term data series collected by fewer and fewer field workers.

  8. 8. If the efforts being made to sustain long-term series by applying less direct measurement techniques mean that the resulting data are discounted, then more such series will be interrupted or discontinued. We will all be the losers if this happens.

References

Cogley, J. G. and Adams., W. P. 1998. Mass balance of glaciers other than the ice sheets. J. Glaciol., 44(147), 315325.CrossRefGoogle Scholar