1 The fact is that “modernity” is a term that is much used but seldom defined, and any definition offered is subject to controversy and refutation. Because it appears to refer to a time period, what modernity is, is intrinsically related to when modernity is; whole academic careers have been built on pushing back the dating of the advent of “modernity.” Did it begin with the Reformation? the Enlightenment? Immanuel Kant? Marcel Proust? Are we still in the modern period, or have we now moved into something called “postmodernity?”

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12 bid.

13 Ibid., 30.

14 Weber, Economy and Society, 450.

15 “Science as a Vocation.” 139.

16 Weber, Economy and Society, 506.

17 Ibid., 60.

18 “Politics as a Vocation,” 95.

19 Ibid., 123.

20 Economy and Society, 54.

21 “Politics as a Vocation,” 78.

22 Here is a place where the separation, for purpose of discussion, of “economy” from “society” raises some difficulties. Most bureaucrats do their jobs not because they lust after the administration of violence, but because they have a mortgage and a car payment.

23 In making this claim that rationalization is a dialectical process of overcoming, I am aware that rational authority and charismatic authority do not stand in a simple relationship of thesis and antithesis, since they are supplemented by a that type of authority, “traditional authority” (see Weber, Economy and Society, 215). However, it seems to me that traditional authority is in fact a mediating type in which rational procedures (“routinization”) are developed on an irrationally founded authority. In Weber's terms, traditional authority represents technical rationalization without theoretical rationalization, and thus simply is an incomplete moment in the dialectic of disenchantment.

24 Weber, Economy and Society. 241,244,246.

25 Weber, “The Social Psychology of the World Religions,” 281.

26 Max Weber, “Politics as a Vocation” in From Mar Weber; 126.

21 Weber, “Religious Rejections of the World and Their Directions,” in From Mar Weber, 336.

28 Weber, 'The Social Psychology of the World Religions,” 282.

29 Weber, Economy and Society, 601.

30 Weber first develops this dichotomy in The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, but there it is largely subordinated to the distinction between inner‐worldly and other‐worldly. It is only later, under the influence of his friend Ernst Troeltsch, that the ascetic‐mystic distinction assumes an important place in Weber's sociology of religion.

31 Weber, Economy and Society, 545.

32 Weber, The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, 233, n. 66.

33 Weber, Ibid. See a similar comment by Friedrich Heiler: “Mysticism does not value moral action as a thing good in itself, an absolute aim, that is, as the realization of values in personal and social life, but as a means to deaden the senses and suppress the emotions”(Prayer: A Study in the History and Psychology of Religion [1918], S. trans, McComb,. (London: Oxford University Press, 1932)Google Scholar. 157‐158).

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35 One might argue that in a liberal polity like the U.S. religion has not been relegated to the inwardness of private belief, but has simply been excluded from the realm of the state. Religious belief is free to organize forms of social existence in that middle realm between the state and the individual: civil society. Thus civil society is the proper place for religious societies such as churches. This claim deserves more serious attention than I can give it here, but let me note briefly that political liberalism has tended to foster increasingly individualistic notions of religious belief, even among traditions, such as Roman Catholicism, which are thought to place a great emphasis on authority and community. Most U.S. Roman Catholics are indistinguishable from their Protestant or Jewish or agnostic neighbours. One might recall Hilaire Belloc's comment that American Roman Catholics were Protestants who went to Mass on Sunday.

36 Roland Robertson, “On the Analysis of Mysticism: Pre‐Weberian, Weberian and Post‐Weberian Perspectives”, Sociological Analysis 1975,36/3,245‐248. The Marcuse quotation is from Reason and Revolution: Hegel and the Rise of Social Theory. Robertson also notes that this “Lutheran epistemology” has in turn been transmitted through Weber to much American sociology of religion. Robertson writes: “the easy, undialectical acceptance among many American sociologists of the idea that religiosity is primarily a private, internal matter, a stance strongly facilitated by methodologies which commit the individualist fallacy, testifies further to the amorphous impact of traditional Lutheranism.”

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41 For the History of Religions School, mysticism was commonly taken to be Oriental in its essence: an importation from Greek mystery cults or from neoplatonic philosophy, and ultimately rooted in Indian religion. This often played into the apologetical interests of Protestant scholars who wished to see in Christian mysticism an alien “hellenization” and corruption of pure biblical faith. For example, Adolph von Harnack presents mysticism as the wholesale importation of Neoplatonism into Christian thought, primarily through its influence on Augustine and Pseudo‐Dionysius (History of Dogma, Vol. I, 360–61. See also Vol. VI, 97–108). One finds this same view expressed a generation later by Friedrich Heiler, for whom mysticism could be traced from Pseudo‐Dionysius back through Plotinus and Plato, to Orphic‐Dionysiac mysteries. These in turn could, in his view, probably be connected with a strand of Indian mysticism stretching back to the Upanishads (Heiler, Prayer, 116–117). For both Heiler and Hamack, this essentially Oriental mysticism was set in stark contrast with prophetic, biblical religion which was active and vigorous and masculine. Mysticism was a kind of passive, feminine corruption within Christianity which could be isolated, if not excised. For the characterization of mysticism as feminine, see Heiler, Prayer, 146.

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52 See particularly his remarks about Russian mysticism in “Max Weber on Church, Sect and Mysticism,”Sociological Analysis 1973, 3412, 140‐149.

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56 Thus David Tracy writes: “Without the prophetic core, the struggle for justice and freedom in the historical‐political world can too soon be lost in mere privacy. Without the mystical insistence on love, the spiritual power of the righteous struggle is always in danger of lapsing into mere self‐righteousness and spiritual exhaustion”(Dialogue with the Other. 118). It is interesting in this particular quotation to see the mystical‐political dialectic read through Reinhold Niebuhr's love‐justice dialectic. See Niebuhr, Reinhold, An Interpretation of Christian Ethics (New York: Harper Brothers, 1935)Google Scholar.

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66 In some ways, such a view can be seen to underlie his whole project in the books Jesus and Christ whereby, in the former, historical‐critical scholarship is used to reconstruct the original Abba experience of the charismatic figure Jesus and, in the latter, the story is recounted of how this original experience came to be routinized by the early Church.

67 Schillebeeckx, Church, 59–60.

68 Ibid., 48.

69 Ibid., 59. It is tempting to give a biographical explanation of this tension between interior experience and exterior institution, given that Schillebeeckx is a theologian who has suffered much at the hands of “the institutional Church” (see in particular his remarks in Church, xiii‐xv). His positive remarks in Christ about the “community‐centered” approach of Latin American liberation theology, in which theology becomes “the theory of living church communities” (759) indicate that his assessment of the “institutionalization of belief” might be different given different institutions. However 1 believe that, even given this, one must also see how Schillebeeckx's work reflects a fundamental theme of modernity: the opposition of subjective interior and objective exterior.

70 Schillebeeckx. On Christian Faith, 71.

71 Schillebeeckx, Christ, 655.

72 Schillebeeckx, Church, 30–31.

73 Schillebeeckx, Christ, 790–791: cf. Church, 232.

74 Schillebeeckx, On Christian Faith, 82.

75 Schillebeeckx, Church, 99–101.

76 Schillebeeckx, Christ. 776‐119.

77 Schillebeeckx, Church. 100.

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85 I have attempted to argue this in more detail in Julian of Norwich and the Mystical Body Politic of Christ (Notre Dame: The University of Notre Dame Press, 1999). 3–12 and 'Theo‐drama and Political Theology.”Communio: International Catholic Review, XXV/3 (Fall, 1998). 532–552.

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