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Talmudic Portrayals of Relationships Between Rabbis: Amoraic or Pseudepigraphic?
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In both halachic and aggadic contexts the Talmud frequently supplies information about the relationships between sages. Sages interact with each other, or comment on each other's erudition, piety, personality, and the like. From what sources does the Talmud derive this information? From sources contemporary with the sages involved, or from sources of a much later time?
Some of the talmudic information is attributed to named authorities, some of it is presented anonymously. Are the attributed statements pseudepigraphic or authentic? Are there substantive distinctions between the attributed and the anonymous statements? Are the anonymous statements amoraic or post-amoraic?
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20. According to some versions, he refuses because of an astrological prediction that he will die soon after taking office. According to other versions, no reason is stated, and perhaps Yosef refuses out of humility or out of a desire to avoid public office and leave himself more time to study.
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33. Yevamot 24b and 91a, Baba Kamma 47b, 65a, and 67b, Bekhorot 23b, and Niddah 60a. In addition, on Pesahim 109a and Kiddushin 71b, either Rav Yosef or Abaye curses statements by Rav (on Moed Katan 12b, all versions agree that the author is Abaye). Apparently, Yosef and/or Abaye respond to the substance of the opinions alone, but the vehemence with which they express their opposition might be fueled by animosity toward Rav, the author of the opinions. We find no hint of animosity toward Rav by either Yosef or Abaye in other contexts, however, and Yosefs or Abaye's curses are not uniquely directed against Rav. See Masoret ha- Shas on Kiddushin 33b.
34. We also find examples of cooperation and profound respect. See Kalmin, “Saints or Sinners, Scholars or Ignoramuses?” pp. 187–189.
35. Shabbat 53a.
36. Hullin 45b.
37. Moed Katan 12b. See also Kiddushin 44b for Rav's reaction to what he mistakenly believes is the opinion of Shmuel. See also Shmuel's sarcastic reaction on Berakhot 60b.
38. Bezah 16b.
39. Kiddushin 79b.
40. Shabbat 10b.
41. Avodah Zarah 53b and Hullin 68b.
42. Shabbat 22a.
43. Sanhedrin 72a. Our texts read Rava, but in light of Rabbah's preference for the views of Rav, it seems likely that Rabbah is referred to. In general, manuscript variation between the names Rava and Rabbah is so common that even when all versions agree, we cannot be certain which amora is referred to. See Kalinin, “Friends and Colleagues or Barely Acquainted?” pp. 125–135, esp. pp. 129–130.
44. Kalmin, “Saints or Sinners, Scholars or Ignoramuses?” pp. 187–190.
45. Niddah 70a.
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47. Baba Batra 9a–b.
48. Baba Mezia 16a. Rami bar Hama exclaims “Behold the man [i.e., Sheshet[ and behold the objection!” Rava remarks “I see the man, but I do not see the objection.” Perhaps Rava shares Rami's high opinion of Sheshet, but simply denies that in this particular instance Sheshet's argument is decisive. On the other hand, perhaps Rava suggests that Sheshet is a man and nothing more, in contrast to Rami, who implies that Sheshet is an extraordinary man.
49. Gittin 6b.
50. See Shabbat 142b, Eruvin 29a, and Pesahim 52b. See also Zevahim 118b.
51. Yevamot 105b.
52. Sanhedrin 99a.
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55. See also Yoma 22b.
56. Eruvin 90a, Baba Mezia 96a–b, and Niddah 33a–b.
57. In two of the three cases (Eruvin 90a and Baba Mezia 96a–b), it is unclear whether the phrase in question was authored by Rava or by the anonymous editors. Rava is most likely the author, however, for as we will argue below, the anonymous editors do not criticize amoraim. See also Halivni, Mekorot u-Mesorot: Eruvin-Pesahim,pp. 233–234.
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59. Pesahim 34b.
60. Yoma 57a and Menahot 52a. The printed editions read Rava in both places, but Rabbah is preferable chronologically.
61. Bekhorot 25b. See also Zevahim 60b. See also Sanhedrin 24a, where Yirmiya ridicules Babylonian learning.
62. Zevahim 44a–b and 100b.
63. Shabbat 21b.
64. Yoma 57a.
65. For another disapproving remark by a Babylonian rabbi directed at Yirmiya, see Rav Aha bar Yaakov's comment on Niddah 23a.
66. The anonymous editors only infrequently remove insults against earlier rabbis (see below). For the most part, they leave the offending passages untouched. Perhaps systematic study would reveal patterns to the editors' decisions to comment on certain sources and to ignore others, but I have not been able to discern any as yet.
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68. Baba Kamma 80a–b.
69. Shabbat 108a.
70. See also the Appendix, below.
71. Sanhedrin 5a–b.
72. In explaining the editors' alternative response, I have accepted the interpretation of Rashi and Yad Rama. These commentators read quite a lot into the editors' brief remark, but I have no fully satisfactory alternative to suggest. In any case, the editors' first response supports my contention here. For manuscript variants of this story, see Rosenthal, “Rav Ben-Ahi R. Hiyya Gam Ben- Ahoto?” pp. 289–307. The sections of the story which Rosenthal identifies as late additions have not been included in my description of the narrative.
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75. Hullin 133a.
76. The absence of the term “he said,” indicating amoraic dialogue, does not decide the issue. See the discussion above.
77. In addition to the sources cited below, see Baba Mezia 104b and Hullin 56b, where Ashi's opinions are rejected by the anonymous editors with the words “And it isn't so,” and see the discussion above.
78. Ketubot 15a–b and Hullin 45a.
79. Zevahim 50b–51a.
80. Pesahim lla and parallel. Yevamot 21a and 82a, Baba Mezia 71b, Baba Batra 145a, Zevahim 110b, and Menahot 95b.
81. See, for example, Arukh ha-Shalem,ed. Alexander Kohut 1878; reprint ed., Vienna, 1926), vol. 1, pt. 2, p. 15; and Jastrow, Marcus. Dictionary of the Targumim. Talmud Babli, Yerushalmi and Midrashic Literature(1886–1903; reprint ed., New York: Judaica Press, 1971), pp. 139 and 191.Google Scholar
82. See also Berakhot 47b, where according to some versions of the story of Rami bar Hama's death, the anonymous editors claim that Menashya was a full-fledged rabbi, but Rami “did not examine him adequately.” According to these versions, the anonymous editors add to the criticism of Rami by injecting an element of negligence not explicitly present in Rava's statement. The majority of versions, which contain no explicit criticism of Rami, are most likely correct. See Dikdukei Soferim,nn. lamed and following.
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